2025 NCAA DIII Men’s Cross Country Regional Rankings – Preseason

NEW ORLEANS – It’s almost here.

Here is the preseason edition of the NCAA DIII Men’s Cross Country Regional Rankings for the 2025 season, as released on Tuesday by the U.S. Track & Field and Cross Country Coaches Association (USTFCCCA).

Regional Rankings are determined subjectively by a single member coach in each respective region. The regional representative is tasked with weighing returning teams’ strength with current season results (if applicable) in determining a rank-order of squad potential. Only USTFCCCA member programs are eligible to receive a ranking. Teams with provisional status within the region may be ranked.

Regional Championships Saturday is set for November 15, which is where one team from each region will automatically qualify for the 2025 NCAA DIII Cross Country Championships.

East Region

Projected AQ: No. 1 MIT

Next in Line: No. 2 Tufts

Also in the Hunt: No. 3 WPI, No. 4 Bates, No. 5 Bowdoin

Notes: Four-time defending regional champion MIT headlines the preseason rankings in 2025. Graduation might have hit the Engineers hard, but they return Renne Cooper and Yichen Sun, both of whom finished among the top-15 athletes last year. Jake Cobb took the next step for MIT during the track season, running a sub-nine minute steeple, while newcomer Sam Hansen is expected to contribute immediately.

Tufts, which sits second in the preseason rankings ahead of WPI, Bates, and Bowdoin, welcomes back six of its top-seven runners from 2024. Top returner Amo Aouchiche had a breakout 2024 campaign, earning All-America honors with his 35th-place finish.

Great Lakes Region

Projected AQ: No. 1 Hope

Next in Line: No. 2 John Carroll

Also in the Hunt: No. 3 Calvin, No. 4 Trine, No. 5 Mount Union

Notes: Hope springs eternal – and to the top of the regional rankings for the first time in program history. The Flying Dutch return six of its seven athletes from 2024, including All-American Ian Petruska and Carston Cole, among others. Hope expects big things from Michigan State transfer Aiden Moore, who drew a redshirt last year but is ready to compete in 2025.

John Carroll, which ranks second to begin the season ahead of Calvin, Trine, and Mount Union, will sport a different look in 2025. The Blue Streaks graduated five runners who were key to their success over a four-year period that saw them win three regional titles. Look for athletes like Nate Julien and Ian Paul to step up for JCU in 2025.

Metro Region

Projected AQ: No. 1 Moravian

Next in Line: No. 2 Rowan

Also in the Hunt: No. 3 Swarthmore, No. 4 TCNJ, No. 5 Haverford

Notes: Defending regional champion Moravian is projected to run it back in 2025. The top-ranked Greyhounds only return two athletes from their top seven last year, but see a high ceiling with how their runners performed on the track. Moravian also nabbed Temple transfer Cole Frank in the offseason. Frank has an 8k PR of 23:47 and ran 8:07 for the 3k on the track.

Rowan always finds itself in the mix and should be there in 2025. The Profs, who rank ahead of Swarthmore, TCNJ, and Haverford, should be led by Matt Conway and Colin Patterson.

Mid-Atlantic Region

Projected AQ: No. 1 Johns Hopkins

Next in Line: No. 2 Carnegie Mellon

Also in the Hunt: No. 3 Lebanon Valley, No. 4 Messiah, No. 5 Dickinson

Notes: Johns Hopkins is projected to win the regional title come November. The Blue Jays, who finished runner-up last year, welcome back six of seven runners from last year’s squad, namely star Emmanuel Leblond who finished sixth at the 2024 NCAA Championships. Four-time defending champion Carnegie Mellon could make life difficult for Johns Hopkins, but must replace six of its seven runners from last year’s team. Ryan Podnar and Matthew Short will be looked upon to lead the Tartans this season.

Lebanon Valley, Messiah, and Dickinson round out the top-five teams.

Mideast Region

Projected AQ: No. 1 RPI

Next in Line: No. 2 Williams

Also in the Hunt: No. 3 Amherst, No. 4 Wesleyan (Conn.), No. 5 Middlebury

Notes: Defending champion RPI sits atop the preseason rankings. The Engineers, who romped to victory last year with 29 points, return three of their top-five runners, including Jack Loughery, Justin Cascio, and Tobin Durham, who finished fourth, sixth, and seventh, respectively on that championship team.

Williams returns six of its top-seven runners from last year’s runner-up team, namely Malcolm Oakes and Rick Yanashita. No. 3 Amherst, No. 4 Wesleyan (Conn.) and No. 5 Middlebury round out the top-five teams.

Midwest Region

Projected AQ: No. 1 Wartburg

Next in Line: No. 2 North Central (Ill.)

Also in the Hunt: No. 3 UChicago, No. 4 Loras, No. 5 Washington (Mo.)

Notes: It will be a war of attrition in the Midwest Region once again and Wartburg is projected to come out on top. The Knights return three runners who earned All-America honors in 2024: Isaiah Hammerand (seventh), Jacob Green (15th), and Lance Sobaski (37th).

North Central (Ill.) sits second to begin the season ahead of UChicago, Loras, and Washington (Mo.). The Cardinals, who finished runner-up to Wartburg last year, have a squad bolstered by upperclassmen, namely seniors Kyle Nofziger and BJ Sorg. Oscar Frontjes is a sophomore, but stood out on the track in 2025 with PRs of 14:53.02 for 5k and 30:32.42 for 10k.

Niagara Region

Projected AQ: No. 1 SUNY Geneseo

Next in Line: No. 2 NYU

Also in the Hunt: No. 3 Hamilton, No. 4 Rochester (N.Y.), No. 5 SUNY Brockport

Notes: SUNY Geneseo is expected to top the podium at the regional championships come November. The Knights, who finished runner-up last year to now-No. 2 NYU, return several talented runners, namely Empire 8 champion Ryan Hagan and Niagara Region fourth-place finisher Pierce Young. The defending champion Violets, who beat SUNY Geneseo by one point last year, welcome back three of their top-five athletes from 2024, headlined by third-place finisher Liam Hagerty (Hagerty also finished top-50 at the NCAA Championships).

No. 3 Hamilton, No. 4 Rochester (N.Y.) and No. 5 SUNY Brockport round out the top five teams.

North Region

Projected AQ: No. 1 UW-La Crosse

Next in Line: No. 2 St. Olaf

Also in the Hunt: No. 3 UW-Whitewater, No. 4 UW-Stevens Point, No. 5 UW-Platteville

Notes: UW-La Crosse is considered to be a class above the rest of the region. The defending regional and national champion Eagles welcome back six of their seven runners from last year, including four All-Americans: Grant Matthai (third), Aidan Matthai (fifth), Joey Sullivan (16th), and Jayden Zywicki (20th). UW-La Crosse also added several outstanding freshmen.

St. Olaf, led by 2024 All-American Kevin Turlington, is projected to make a run at the title, and sits above No. 3 UW-Whitewater, No. 4 UW-Stevens Point and No. 5 UW-Platteville.

South Region

Projected AQ: No. 1 Washington & Lee

Next in Line: No. 2 Lynchburg

Also in the Hunt: No. 3 Emory, No. 4 Pfeiffer, No. 5 Berry

Notes: Washington & Lee is ranked No. 1 for the first time in program history. The Generals, who were ranked as high as second just four time in the past four years, return six of seven runners from last year’s squad, including Keaton Rush and Robert Cooper.

2024 regional champion Lynchburg sits second and must find a way to restock the cupboard. The Hornets graduated a pair of track national champions in Sam Llaneza and Tor Hotung-Davidson, and saw record-holder Chasen Hunt transfer to NCAA DI North Carolina.

No. 3 Emory, No. 4 Pfieffer, and No. 5 Berry round out the top five teams.

West Region

Projected AQ: No. 1 Pomona-Pitzer

Next in Line: No. 2 Claremont-Mudd-Scripps

Also in the Hunt: No. 3 Colorado College, No. 4 UC Santa Cruz, No. 5 George Fox

Notes: Seven-time defending regional champion Pomona-Pitzer stars the year at No. 1 for the tenth time in the past 11 years. The Sagehens lost both Cameron Halter and Quinn White in the offseason, but welcome back three of their seven runners from last year and have excellent depth waiting in the wings. Transfer Amir Barkan should contribute immediately for them.

2024 runner-up Claremont-Mudd-Scripps is said to be deep this year, while No. 3 Colorado College, No. 4 UC Santa Cruz and No. 5 George Fox should make things interesting.

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2025 Preseason - August 26th

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The USTFCCCA Regional Cross Country Coaches’ Rankings are determined subjectively by a single member coach in each respective region. The regional representative is tasked with weighing returning teams’ strength with current season results (if applicable) in determining a rank-order of squad potential. Only USTFCCCA member programs are eligible to receive a ranking. Teams with provisional status within the region may be ranked.

East Region -- Men

RANK TEAM
CONFERENCE
2024
FINAL
1mitMIT
NEWMAC (1)
 1
2tuftsTUFTS
NESCAC (1)
 2
3wpiWPI
NEWMAC (2)
 3
4batesBATES
NESCAC (6)
 5
5bowdoinBOWDOIN
NESCAC (11)
 4
6colbyCOLBY
NESCAC (7)
 7
7babsonBABSON
NEWMAC (3)
 6
8keene-stateKEENE STATE
Little East (1)
 9
9suffolkSUFFOLK
CNE (5)
 8
10brandeisBRANDEIS
UAA (8)
 11

Great Lakes Region -- Men

RANK TEAM
CONFERENCE
2024
FINAL
1hopeHOPE
MIAA (1)
 3
2john-carrollJOHN CARROLL
NCAC (1)
 2
3calvinCALVIN
MIAA (4)
 1
4trineTRINE
MIAA (2)
 5
5mount-unionMOUNT UNION
OAC (2)
 8
6case-western-reserveCASE WESTERN RESERVE
UAA (6)
 4
7rose-hulmanROSE-HULMAN
HCAC (1)
 11
8centreCENTRE
SAA (2)
 14
9manchesterMANCHESTER
HCAC (2)
 12
10ohio-northernOHIO NORTHERN
OAC (4)
 6

Metro Region -- Men

RANK TEAM
CONFERENCE
2024
FINAL
1moravianMORAVIAN
Landmark (1)
 1
2rowanROWAN
NJAC (2)
 2
3swarthmoreSWARTHMORE
Centennial (3)
 4
4tcnjTCNJ
NJAC (1)
 5
5haverfordHAVERFORD
Centennial (2)
 3
6desalesDESALES
MAC (5)
 7
7stocktonSTOCKTON
NJAC (3)
 6
8ursinusURSINUS
Centennial (6)
 8
9widenerWIDENER
MAC (6)
 10
10stevensSTEVENS
MAC (4)
 9

Mid-Atlantic Region -- Men

RANK TEAM
CONFERENCE
2024
FINAL
1johns-hopkinsJOHNS HOPKINS
Centennial (1)
 2
2carnegie-mellonCARNEGIE MELLON
UAA (3)
 1
3lebanon-valleyLEBANON VALLEY
MAC (1)
 5
4messiahMESSIAH
MAC (2)
 7
5dickinsonDICKINSON
Centennial (4)
 4
6misericordiaMISERICORDIA
MAC (3)
 6
7marywoodMARYWOOD
AEC (1)
 3
8elizabethtownELIZABETHTOWN
Landmark (3)
 9
9salisburySALISBURY
C2C (2)
 11
10genevaGENEVA
PAC (1)
 12

Mideast Region -- Men

RANK TEAM
CONFERENCE
2024
FINAL
1rpiRPI
Liberty League (1)
 1
2williamsWILLIAMS
NESCAC (2)
 2
3amherstAMHERST
NESCAC (3)
 5
4wesleyan-connWESLEYAN (CONN.)
NESCAC (4)
 4
5middleburyMIDDLEBURY
NESCAC (5)
 3
6roger-williamsROGER WILLIAMS
CNE (1)
 6
7st-lawrenceST. LAWRENCE
Liberty League (2)
 7
8vassarVASSAR
Liberty League (4)
 8
9coast-guardCOAST GUARD
NEWMAC (4)
 9
10union-n-yUNION (N.Y.)
Liberty League (6)
 10

Midwest Region -- Men

RANK TEAM
CONFERENCE
2024
FINAL
1wartburgWARTBURG
American Rivers (1)
 1
2north-central-illNORTH CENTRAL (ILL.)
CCIW (1)
 2
3chicagoCHICAGO
UAA (2)
 6
4lorasLORAS
American Rivers (2)
 4
5washington-moWASHINGTON (MO.)
UAA (4)
 3
6central-iowaCENTRAL (IOWA)
American Rivers (3)
 10
7simpson-iowaSIMPSON (IOWA)
American Rivers (4)
 12
8nebraska-wesleyanNEBRASKA WESLEYAN
American Rivers (5)
 14
9dubuqueDUBUQUE
American Rivers (6)
 7
10wheaton-illWHEATON (ILL.)
CCIW (3)
 9

Niagara Region -- Men

RANK TEAM
CONFERENCE
2024
FINAL
1suny-geneseoSUNY GENESEO
Empire 8 (1)
 2
2nyuNYU
UAA (1)
 1
3hamiltonHAMILTON
NESCAC (9)
 4
4suny-brockportSUNY BROCKPORT
Empire 8 (4)
 3
5rochester-n-yROCHESTER (N.Y.)
UAA (7)
 6
6ritRIT
Liberty League (3)
 5
7ithacaITHACA
Liberty League (5)
 9
8nazarethNAZARETH
Empire 8 (5)
 8
9houghtonHOUGHTON
Empire 8 (3)
 10
10suny-cortlandSUNY CORTLAND
SUNYAC (1)
 11

North Region -- Men

RANK TEAM
CONFERENCE
2024
FINAL
1uw-la-crosseUW-LA CROSSE
WIAC (1)
 1
2st-olafST. OLAF
MIAC (1)
 3
3uw-whitewaterUW-WHITEWATER
WIAC (4)
 2
4uw-stevens-pointUW-STEVENS POINT
WIAC (3)
 4
5uw-plattevilleUW-PLATTEVILLE
WIAC (2)
 9
6carletonCARLETON
MIAC (2)
 10
7msoeMSOE
NACC (1)
 8
8saint-johns-minnSAINT JOHN'S (MINN.)
MIAC (4)
 11
9uw-oshkoshUW-OSHKOSH
WIAC (5)
 13
10uw-eau-claireUW-EAU CLAIRE
WIAC (6)
 5

South Region -- Men

RANK TEAM
CONFERENCE
2024
FINAL
1washington-and-leeWASHINGTON AND LEE
ODAC (1)
 3
2lynchburgLYNCHBURG
ODAC (2)
 1
3emoryEMORY
UAA (5)
 2
4pfeifferPFEIFFER
USA South (1)
 5
5berryBERRY
SAA (3)
 4
6roanokeROANOKE
ODAC (3)
 8
7christopher-newportCHRISTOPHER NEWPORT
C2C (3)
 7
8catholic-d-cCATHOLIC (D.C.)
Landmark (2)
 11
9shenandoahSHENANDOAH
ODAC (4)
 13
10oglethorpeOGLETHORPE
SAA (5)
 10

West Region -- Men

RANK TEAM
CONFERENCE
2024
FINAL
1pomona-pitzerPOMONA-PITZER
SCIAC (1)
 1
2claremont-mudd-scrippsCLAREMONT-MUDD-SCRIPPS
SCIAC (2)
 2
3colorado-collegeCOLORADO COLLEGE
SCAC (1)
 6
4uc-santa-cruzUC SANTA CRUZ
C2C (1)
 4
5george-foxGEORGE FOX
NWC (1)
 3
6whitworthWHITWORTH
NWC (2)
 7
7trinity-texasTRINITY (TEXAS)
SAA (1)
 9
8lewis-clarkLEWIS & CLARK
NWC (4)
 10
9caltechCALTECH
SCIAC (5)
 8
10whitmanWHITMAN
NWC (5)
 11


Week-by-Week Ranking

East (NCAA DIII)
TeamPreseasonWeek #1Week #2Week #3Week #4Week #5Week #6Week #7FINAL
MIT122222221
Tufts211111112
Colby645557343
Bates464444434
WPI333333555
Babson776665666
Bowdoin557776787
Keene State88101099878
Wentworth (Mass.)9
UMass Dartmouth9991010910
Bridgewater State11
Brandeis101012
Plymouth State888810913
Southern Maine1014
Gordon (Mass.)15
Wheaton (Mass.)16
Fitchburg State17
UMaine Farmington18
Suffolk919
Clark (Mass.)20
Thomas (Maine)21
Maine Maritime Academy22
Univ. of New England23
Endicott24
Framingham State25
Nichols26
Emerson27
Worcester State28
Curry29
Emmanuel (Mass.)30
Lesley31
Colby-Sawyer32
Great Lakes (NCAA DIII)
TeamPreseasonWeek #1Week #2Week #3Week #4Week #5Week #6Week #7FINAL
Hope111111111
Rose-Hulman756655782
John Carroll2655661023
Baldwin Wallace88894
Otterbein33333935
Case Western Reserve622222246
Mount Union544444677
Trine487799558
Ohio Northern104109
Kenyon988773610
Capital11
Calvin3712
Kalamazoo13
Oberlin14
Heidelberg15
Manchester91010101016
Centre8109917
Denison18
Franciscan19
DePauw20
Franklin21
Wilmington (Ohio)22
Adrian23
Hanover24
Wabash25
Wooster26
Asbury (Ky.)27
Olivet28
Allegheny (Pa.)29
Ohio Wesleyan30
Muskingum31
Albion32
Alma33
Earlham34
Spalding35
Anderson (Ind.)36
Berea (Ky.)37
Metro (NCAA DIII)
TeamPreseasonWeek #1Week #2Week #3Week #4Week #5Week #6Week #7FINAL
TCNJ451155111
Swarthmore333311232
Moravian112222443
Haverford544444324
Rowan225533555
Stevens1078886766
DeSales666667677
Stockton787778888
Merchant Marine Academy10109
Widener99101091010
Ursinus811
Eastern (Pa.)12
Arcadia13
Ramapo10991099914
St. Joseph's (Long Island)15
Drew16
Kean17
Rutgers-Camden18
Muhlenberg19
Penn State Abington20
Delaware Valley21
FDU Florham22
Valley Forge Military (Pa.)23
Immaculata24
Rutgers-Newark25
Cairn26
Mid-Atlantic (NCAA DIII)
TeamPreseasonWeek #1Week #2Week #3Week #4Week #5Week #6Week #7FINAL
Johns Hopkins111111111
Carnegie Mellon222222222
Lebanon Valley333333333
Dickinson544444444
Messiah475555555
Salisbury967777666
Misericordia656666777
Geneva1010988888
Elizabethtown8991099
Marywood7888101010
Scranton911
Susquehanna101012
Gettysburg13
Grove City991014
Saint Vincent15
Franklin & Marshall16
Washington & Jefferson17
York (Pa.)18
King's College (Pa.)19
Hood20
McDaniel21
Penn State Berks22
Juniata23
Stevenson24
St. Mary's (Md.)25
Penn State Altoona26
Lancaster Bible27
Penn College28
Waynesburg29
Penn State Harrisburg30
Lycoming31
Mideast (NCAA DIII)
TeamPreseasonWeek #1Week #2Week #3Week #4Week #5Week #6Week #7FINAL
RPI112222221
Williams221111112
Middlebury555555553
Wesleyan (Conn.)433344444
Amherst344433335
St. Lawrence766666666
Connecticut College101088887
Roger Williams688
Vassar877777779
Coast Guard9988101091010
Trinity (Conn.)9910911
Union (N.Y.)10109912
SUNY New Paltz13
Clarkson14
Eastern Connecticut State15
Hartford16
Springfield (Mass.)17
Westfield State18
Rhode Island College19
Norwich20
SUNY Plattsburgh22
Western Connecticut State23
Sage Colleges24
Salve Regina25
SUNY Canton26
Midwest (NCAA DIII)
TeamPreseasonWeek #1Week #2Week #3Week #4Week #5Week #6Week #7FINAL
Wartburg111111111
Chicago333333222
North Central (Ill.)222222333
Loras455555554
Washington (Mo.)544444445
Central (Iowa)666677666
Simpson (Iowa)778766777
Nebraska Wesleyan887888998
Grinnell10991010109
Dubuque910
Luther101011
Wheaton (Ill.)10999812
Millikin1013
Cornell College814
Ozarks (Ark.)15
Augustana (Ill.)16
Illinois Wesleyan17
Elmhurst18
Buena Vista19
Webster20
Knox21
Principia22
Illinois College23
Lake Forest24
Greenville25
Coe26
Concordia Chicago27
Illinois Tech28
Monmouth (Ill.)29
North Park30
Blackburn31
Lyon (Ark.)32
Niagara (NCAA DIII)
TeamPreseasonWeek #1Week #2Week #3Week #4Week #5Week #6Week #7FINAL
SUNY Geneseo111122111
NYU222211222
Rochester (N.Y.)554444543
Hamilton345566654
RIT633333335
Utica77799776
Houghton9810888887
SUNY Brockport4101098
Nazareth8109
Ithaca7666554610
SUNY Cortland10997710911
Penn State Behrend913
Buffalo State81014
Fredonia1015
St. John Fisher16
Hobart17
SUNY Morrisville18
SUNY Oneonta19
Alfred20
Alfred State21
SUNY Oswego22
Hunter23
Manhattanville24
SUNY Cobleskill25
Hartwick26
SUNY Poly27
North (NCAA DIII)
TeamPreseasonWeek #1Week #2Week #3Week #4Week #5Week #6Week #7FINAL
UW-La Crosse111111111
UW-Stevens Point444433332
UW-Platteville555522223
St. Olaf222244444
UW-Whitewater333366555
UW-Eau Claire106677676
UW-Oshkosh999955767
UW-Stout998
MSOE767788889
UW-River Falls10
Carleton6891011
Macalester78812
Saint John's (Minn.)81013
Carthage1010101014
St. Norbert15
Lawrence10916
Gustavus Adolphus17
Wisconsin Lutheran18
St. Scholastica19
Concordia Wisconsin20
Ripon21
Bethel (Minn.)22
Concordia Moorhead23
UW-Superior24
Augsburg25
Carroll (Wis.)26
Beloit27
Hamline28
Martin Luther29
Bethany Lutheran30
Minnesota Morris31
South (NCAA DIII)
TeamPreseasonWeek #1Week #2Week #3Week #4Week #5Week #6Week #7FINAL
Washington and Lee111111111
Lynchburg222222222
Pfeiffer444444443
Emory333333334
Berry596666665
Rhodes108888776
Roanoke655555557
Mary Washington7910101010108
Catholic (D.C.)8810977999
Christopher Newport7677998810
Sewanee11
Covenant12
Oglethorpe1013
Shenandoah914
Southern Virginia15
Bridgewater (Va.)16
Maryville (Tenn.)17
Piedmont18
Brevard (N.C.)19
Hampden-Sydney20
Eastern Mennonite21
Randolph22
Mary Baldwin23
Guilford24
West (NCAA DIII)
TeamPreseasonWeek #1Week #2Week #3Week #4Week #5Week #6Week #7FINAL
Pomona-Pitzer111111111
Colorado College333444222
Claremont-Mudd-Scripps222222433
George Fox555566554
UC Santa Cruz444333345
Caltech9106
Whitworth66991010897
Trinity (Texas)7766771088
La Verne10769
Redlands (Calif.)877556710
St. Thomas (Texas)11
Whitman101012
Willamette8891013
Occidental14
Lewis & Clark89889915
Chapman16
Texas Lutheran17
Southwestern (Texas)18
Pacific (Ore.)19
Pacific Lutheran20
Whittier21
Concordia Texas22
Cal Lutheran23

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2025 Rankings & Polls Calendar
Weeks Regional RankingsNational Coaches' Poll KEY DATES
PreseasonTue 8/26
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Wed 8/27
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Week 1Tue 9/16
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Wed 9/17
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Week 2Tue 9/23
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Wed 9/24
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Week 3Tue 9/30
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Wed 10/1
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Week 4Tue 10/7
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Wed 10/8
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Week 5Tue 10/14
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Wed 10/15
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Week 6Tue 10/21
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Wed 10/22
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Week 7Tue 11/4
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Wed 11/5
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Week 8Tue 11/18
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FINAL Results
(official final ranking)
Sat 11/15
MEN | WOMEN
Sat 11/22